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Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 
I messaged a guy through e-bay telling him that his car was not a real cobra and this is the response I got. I never heard of this does anyone know if this is true or not?

"Here's the deal. In 1993, Ford made a mustang GT/Cobra. If you took the time to get in touch with Ford you'd learn that this car's VIN runs as either/or. The body style and engine are exactly the same in that year for a cobra and a GT. This is determined with the 5th, 6th, and 7th digits of the VIN number. In this case, its the P42 code. The thing that makes this car a cobra is the fact that it has emblems on the car identifying it as so. That is why there are both cobra emblems and GT ground effects. If they were made that year with different engines, that would ne one thing, but they weren't. There is NO difference between the two if they were both made that year. Therefore, it is what I say it is, a Mustang GT Cobra."
 

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Posted by 93redcobra (Member # 1344) on :
 
do you have the ebay link?
 

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Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4584346589&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1
 

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Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 

 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
Nope.

He doesn't have the Cobra kit, intake, wheels, tails, etc.

He would also have the SVT certificate PROVING it's a cobra.

I'm gonna have to throw up
 

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Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 
Both cobra emblems are facing forward.
 

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Posted by BCINGUU (Member # 2397) on :
 
Wow, that's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard.
 

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Posted by shiftylx (Member # 2670) on :
 

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Originally posted by BCINGUU:
Wow, that's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard.

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ditto on that one.

cobras have specific intakes, ground effects, taillights and lx tailpipes. plus that little old certificate of auntheticity. i say you e-mail that guy back with this thread
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
wow, thats a crappy thing to do, I hope the buyer knows!!!
 

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Posted by z pyro (Member # 3745) on :
 
lmao he even has a fake cobra intake plate. I should put cobra emblems on my car and claim that its a top-secret 89 cobra concept that was leaked to the public and is therefore worth $10k
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by z pyro:
lmao he even has a fake cobra intake plate. I should put cobra emblems on my car and claim that its a top-secret 89 cobra concept that was leaked to the public and is therefore worth $10k

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ROFL!!!

If you did, dont post it anywhere in cali, someone on here would see it and call BS
 

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Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 

 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
Here is my question to him...more of a comment. Hope he responds.


Hey man just because you got shafted when buying that (GT) mustang doesn't mean you should try and pon it off on some other poor fool. Just because carfax says GT/Cobra doesn't mean a damn thing. You think cars on carfax that say they have never been in an accident means that car has never been in one. LMAO!!! I wouldn't pay $2000 for your heavy, sloppy, ugly, fake, car,...by the way nice intake plate Hhahahahahahaha My car is more cobra than yours. I have a real 93 cobra intake on it. hahahaha WHAT A TOOL!
 

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Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 
Damn, he got 5300 dollars for the car. It looks clean but not worth 5300 dollars.
 

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Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on :
 
i think what he is talking about is when you run the vin on just a regualr gt.it comes up as Gt/cobra.doesnt mean at all that its a cobra.thats just the way the vin comes up.this guy is full of crap.
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
mustangnate just brought up a good point...
what about those canadian foxes??? they were called gt cobras
 

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Posted by z pyro (Member # 3745) on :
 
he can be full of crap all he wants, he sold it for a nice chunk of change. hey I have a cobra intake AND rocker arms, all I need are some cobra emblems and a retarded buyer now!
 

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Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :
 
Actually, both are right. I'll find the webpages and junk about it later as I'm getting ready to go see SAW II.

If you go to Canada and found a Mustang GT there, it would be called a "Cobra". Ford released the fox Mustangs there and called them "Cobras" so they would sell.

So, everyone is right. No, it's not an SVT Cobra, but it very well could still be a Cobra.
 

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Posted by jaybquick (Member # 4286) on :
 
I love those high performance Cobra Rear Drums. LMAO. What a punk!
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 

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Originally posted by MustangNate:
Actually, both are right. I'll find the webpages and junk about it later as I'm getting ready to go see SAW II.

If you go to Canada and found a Mustang GT there, it would be called a "Cobra". Ford released the fox Mustangs there and called them "Cobras" so they would sell.

So, everyone is right. No, it's not an SVT Cobra, but it very well could still be a Cobra.

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Originally posted by Jdub07:
... Just because carfax says GT/Cobra ...

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Originally posted by BCINGUU:

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Originally posted by Jdub07:
... Just because carfax says GT/Cobra ...

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Jdub, that's a very good point. You see GT/Cobra all over the place, in insurance, carfax, auto parts databases etc. That's because they are lumping the GT and the Cobra together in those databases because the cars are so similar. Maybe that's where the seller got confused. GT/Cobra doesn't mean they are the same car, it means GT _or_ Cobra.

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Originally posted by MustangNate:
... If you go to Canada and found a Mustang GT there, it would be called a "Cobra". Ford released the fox Mustangs there and called them "Cobras" so they would sell.

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Very interesting, I had never heard of this but there are reference to it. Here's a picture of the Canadian Cobra... It looks like they were made in 1980 and 1981.



And it looks like you can buy Canadian Cobra emblems from Year One at http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/headline.asp?hid=F20AF1769

[ October 28, 2005, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: BCINGUU ]
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
man, after mustangnate brought it up, i remembered reding about them.. but if they were only made in 80/81 and no other years... that seller was grossly mislead...

saw this on year one "Canadian Cobra hatch decal for 1987-1991 Canadian Mustang Cobra models, silver. " and "Canadian Cobra hatch decal for 1984-1986 Canadian Mustang Cobra models"

if someone has carfax, run the vin and see if it has the origin on the history...

[ October 28, 2005, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: 94gt ]
 

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Posted by BCINGUU (Member # 2397) on :
 
You're right, it looks like there were some other years as well.
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
All GT's sold north of the border were called "GT Cobra's". They had the cheezy dual badges, as well as the standard GT trim. Unfortunately, this is not one of them. It does not have a Kmph speedo cluster. Hope that jackass enjoyed paying $5300 for a GT with Fobra's and badges.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by BCINGUU:
Wow, that's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard.

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Same here. That guy doesn't know what a Cobra is.
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 
Can you buy this with food stamps?
 

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Posted by 69grandecj (Member # 5794) on :
 

This guy is full of crap, but it worked. $5300 for that?
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
WHOLY SHIT!!! Did anyone notice the mileage!

To the guy who bought that car...your F"n dumb and you deserve the peice of crap you just threw your money away on rebuilt motor or not 190,000 miles HAHAHAHAHA
 

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Posted by 510 mob shit (Member # 2117) on :
 
GT side skirts?
GT grille?
GT WING?
GOTTA BE A GT
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
poor guy prolly thought he was getting a real 93 cobra for that price...

Has anyone ran a carfax yet??
 

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Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 
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Year/Make/Model: 1993 FORD MUSTANG GT/COBRA GT

Body Style: HATCHBACK 2 DR
Engine: 5.0L V8 HO SEFI
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: UNITED STATES
Safety Equipment: Driver front air bag/passenger side active (manual) belt

Standard Equipment: Power Windows Optional, Power Steering, Air Conditioning Optional, AM / FM, Power Brakes, 5-digit Odometer





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Last reading reported on 10/03/2005: 185,954 miles
Today's Date: October 28, 2005

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08/18/1992 NICB
Vehicle manufactured and shipped to original
dealer


11/13/1992 1,853 Massachusetts
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Southborough, MA
Title #AJ043575
Title or registration issued
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported


11/13/1992 Massachusetts
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Atlanta, GA
Title #AJ043575
Title or registration issued
Loan or lien reported


03/29/1994 25,474 Inspection Co.
Massachusetts
Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection


04/09/1999 83,890 Massachusetts
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Taunton, MA
Title #AS712611
Title or registration issued


03/27/2001 114,869 Massachusetts
Inspection Station
Taunton, MA
Passed safety or emissions inspection

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07/17/2002 125,414 Massachusetts
Inspection Station
Raynham, MA
Passed safety or emissions inspection

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08/05/2003 30,185 Auto Auction
Sold at auction
in New England Region
Listed as
a dealer vehicle
INCONSISTENT ODOMETER READING

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09/01/2005 Vermont
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Poultney, VT
Vehicle purchase reported


10/03/2005 185,954 Vermont
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Poultney, VT
Title #1003051701025
Title issued or updated
New owner reported

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Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 
Woah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,who the hell is gonna read all that

[ October 28, 2005, 07:31 PM: Message edited by: HaulinAssMaro ]
 

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Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 

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Originally posted by Dag302:
Both cobra emblems are facing forward.

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just what I was thinking..............WELL SAID

"FAKE"
 

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Posted by PWR HNGRY 302 (Member # 6000) on :
 
FOBRA

[ October 30, 2005, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: PWR HNGRY 302 ]
 

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