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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
Who believes in alien UFOs?
I am asking because on the history channel all today is UFO files. Right now they are talking about UFOs in Russia. Stalins highest scientist researched UFO stuff and concluded Alien UFOs are real
The first one i watched was creepy.
 

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Posted by stateokunfusion (Member # 5439) on :
 
I think out of all the space out there and everything else we dont know about there has to be soemthing. We can't be the only intellegent species around
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by stateokunfusion:
I think out of all the space out there and everything else we dont know about there has to be soemthing. We can't be the only intellegent species around

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Yes of course we aren't the only intelligent life in the universe but i am asking do you believe intelligent life is visiting Earth?

[ October 02, 2005, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
Did you know a UFO sighting almost started WW3?
 

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Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on :
 
Raises hand.
 

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Posted by putter (Member # 4253) on :
 
lol nope keep us updated
 

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Posted by 90RanGer (Member # 2906) on :
 
I believe in UFOS, but I don't believe in aliens. Which sounds kind of wierd at first, but it makes sense.
 

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Posted by Bizob (Member # 3768) on :
 
I believe in UFO's. I also believe that there is other intelligent life somewhere in the universe other than on earth. Most people dont actually realize how big space really is. When my astronomy teacher broke it down I couldnt believe how big the universe is.
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 
I believe. I know for sure we have been visited, and that there is other life out there.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
The first episode of the UFO files talked about how this guy says he was in charge of pieces and equipment recovered from the Roswell crash and how he took a micro chip to a company to study.
They said if this was true that there would be a huge jump in technology from what this company discovers. They gave the example that 30 years ago we didn't have computers, cell phones, and other technology that we take for granted today.
Also another tool the guy took was a cutting tool that shot a red light out but when the light would touch anything it would cut through it. Sounds like a strong ass laser pen to me.
 

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Posted by DOPE 50 (Member # 5892) on :
 
i believe in UFO's,i was wathing the samething today too.but i dont beleve in aleins,but there is something out there in space though, i just hope i dont see it in my life time
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by DOPE 50:
i believe in UFO's,i was wathing the samething today too.but i dont beleve in aleins,but there is something out there in space though, i just hope i dont see it in my life time

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Originally posted by stateokunfusion:
Tell me about it i didnt get to see it

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Originally posted by 02GeeTee:
I believe. I know for sure we have been visited, and that there is other life out there.

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
Did you know a UFO sighting almost started WW3?

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
Did you know a UFO sighting almost started WW3?

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what how??? and can u get that footage of the space station thing??

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well it said some russian saw an object hovering and in the spot it was hovering in was where a nuclear silo was and in the silo one of the missles went to arming and launch equence. The russian men inside tried shutting it off but nothing worked. The people on the surface said the object went being a cloud and then disappeared at that exact time the launch sequence was cancelled for the nuke to launch for no reason the guys in the silo had given up in trying to stop it.

If that missle had launched we would have launched ours and would have caused ww3

They said after this incident they totally tore down the silo and they NEVER found anything wrong with the equipment.


The space station stuff i am sure in the on the internet somewhere. It must be disclassified information to have shown it on tv.
it was kinda creep showed the shuttle docking and then the guy moved it to this object floating out in space flashing a light. It looked definitely like a big object.

[ October 04, 2005, 11:03 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
when will that show be on again?
Thanks
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
when will that show be on again?
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i don't know when that episode will be on but it seems like the shows are on everyday. This weekend was just a big bonanza of them i guess.

Check the historychannel.com
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
I think we'll find life somewhere else in our lifetime...yet I think it will be in the form of bacteria or something like that. As far as inteligent life out there. I hope so...that would fun.
 

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Posted by Blowfish (Member # 4043) on :
 
I believe man was created when aliens came to earth millions of years ago and mated with apes on earth. The result is man. Man is the missing link. And hell yes they come back to see what their offspring are doing. My 2 cents
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
they must not be too intelligent if they were banging apes
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
they must not be too intelligent if they were banging apes

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LMFAO!!
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 

 

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Posted by Blowfish (Member # 4043) on :
 
Ya know aliens get their freak on too.
 

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Posted by iron281 (Member # 80) on :
 
I'm almost certain there's intelligent life on planets other than this one. I do not believe that any of these life forms have been here on Earth yet.

Lots of wishful thinking with the Art Bell types, but not a damn shred of physical evidence. Just endless speculation and hearsay.

And it's been that way for 60 years now. Nothing new.
 

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Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on :
 

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Originally posted by iron281:
I'm almost certain there's intelligent life on planets other than this one. I do not believe that any of these life forms have been here on Earth yet.

Lots of wishful thinking with the Art Bell types, but not a damn shred of physical evidence. Just endless speculation and hearsay.

And it's been that way for 60 years now. Nothing new.

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The egyptions, myan's and a few other civilizations have pictures and hyrogriphics(sp)of spacemen and space ships. If you look at the big picture and how things have developed I'm sure we've been visited and reversed engineered alot of the there technology. Not to mention we probably came from mars when the planet was no longer habitable

[ October 05, 2005, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: bunchmyfunky ]
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 

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they must not be too intelligent if they were banging apes

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The egyptions, myan's and a few other civilizations have pictures and hyrogriphics(sp)of spacemen and space ships. If you look at the big picture and how things have developed I'm sure we've been visited and reversed engineered alot of the there technology. Not to mention we probably came from mars when the planet was no longer habitable

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If you really look at the "big picture" as you say, you'd know the opposite is true. There's perfectly good evidence all over the place that we actually did figure this stuff out all by ourselves. There are also no Egyptian hieroglyphics depicting little men in spaceships, or anything else remotely extra-terrestrial. They were far more concerned with the after-life, tomb and monument building than having anything to do with alien visitors. Show us the photos of glyphs that support this.

What specifically has man reverse-engineered from alien technology? The transistor? The IC? The turbine jet engine? The airplane? What ??? Did Edison reverse-engineer the light bulb too? Maybe vacuum tube amps? That'd be especially cool, because then I could say I've got a valve amplifier that was originally designed on Altair-4. Now that would be a conversation piece.

No, it's all BS.

We'll all know when they've arrived. Don't kid yourself.

It's hilarious to think that with nearly 6.5 billion people on the planet, only a select few are even talking about UFOs. We can't even begin to imagine the panic and chaos that would ensue following the realization of alien visitors to this planet.

[ October 05, 2005, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: iron281 ]
 

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Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on :
 
Your right on about everything... and the world is flat Do you beleive in God? If so where is your proof? Faith? Look at the advancments made between the end of WWII and the Korean war. It's strange that after Roswell 1947 we go from prop planes and very limited jetplanes to the U2 which started flying in 1956 and look at the SR-71 BlackBird which was designed in 55 and building started shortly after. To me it seems like to much of a jump. But to each his own.
 

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Posted by iron281 (Member # 80) on :
 
Take a look here at the history, and see if you still think we made a big jump. I don't think we made any mysterious technological leaps at all, just really hard work by some extremely bright people. Why some folks cannot believe or comprehend that mankind is capable of these and other great inventions and feats is the mystery to me, and I think it is an insult to the human spirit and drive that makes us what and who we are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_engine

[ October 05, 2005, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: iron281 ]
 

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Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on :
 
So the link gives a basic history and overview of the jet engine. I'm not saying were dumb and can't make leaps. O well we can go on and on about this but what's the point you don't beleive and I do. If we ever meet let's make sure we talk about this
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by bunchmyfunky:
Your right on about everything... and the world is flat Do you beleive in God? If so where is your proof? Faith? Look at the advancments made between the end of WWII and the Korean war. It's strange that after Roswell 1947 we go from prop planes and very limited jetplanes to the U2 which started flying in 1956 and look at the SR-71 BlackBird which was designed in 55 and building started shortly after. To me it seems like to much of a jump. But to each his own.

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thats what the show was talking about. The guy described each aliena fterfact and how he brought them to different companies to be studied.

I think its kinda odd how after 47 our advancement leaped so quickly. I think humans designed everything but maybe they did have help studying alien stuff too.
Its also odd how we've always been the leaders of the technology.
 

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
Nope, no alien spacecraft are here or have been here in the past. Much as I would like it to be true.

Take a look at the distance between the stars. The closest star is Alpha Centuri at 4 light years away. No planets have been discovered around Alpha Centuri so that would rule it out as a possible candidate for possible life supporting planets. Let's assume, for the sake of discussion, that there is a star within 100 light years of Earth with advanced intelligent life and that Einstein was correct about the impossibility of exceeding the speed of light (186,000 miles per second). That would be a 100 year trip for the aliens if they could travel that fast. Now, I ask you. Why would they travel that far and for so long just to mutilate cows and explore body cavities of "bubbas and bubettes" here on Earth? Even assuming that Einstein was wrong, (which as we learn more about the universe we see he was correct), and they had the technology to get here a lot quicker, why would they not make contact? I know that the Star Trek notion is non intervention with primative civilizations but that is just a Hollywood notion that advanced civilizations might not think much about.

That said, I am sure there are billions of planets with life in many stages of evolution, some very advanced and some very primative. But that does not alter the fact that getting around in this universe at the speeds necessary and with the vastness of it all is a major problem. Finding Earth in this galaxy alone would be like looking for a specific grain of sand on all the beaches on the Earth. And there are billions of galaxies in the universe.

Nope, no aliens here

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
I think we have been contacted but the government isn't willing to let that fact known because it would scare people and all the religious people would go psycho thinking we aren't the only living things under gods care.

I believe light speed will be conquered someday by humans, in fact i read an article about how some scientist think they already have made a particle go faster than the speed of light.
I will look for the article.

[ October 06, 2005, 08:39 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
http://www.livescience.com/technology/050819_fastlight.html
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
Heres an article on some scientists who made light travel 300 times faster than the speed of light.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1081.htm
 

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
You might be right, Dana, about the speed of light speed limit being overcome some day. Anything is possible. Even if it is it will still take a very long time to travel between stars. So why have they come all that distance and won't make contact? Is that what you would do if the situation were reversed? I know I would make contact. Mankind is not all that primative that we would be worthless to communicate with by aliens. If they traveled here by a ship of some kind they are still in the same realm as we are in terms of needing a physical machine to get here so we aren't that backward. It wouldn't be like a human trying to communicate with an ant. We wouldn't be that far apart in terms of evolution.

Nope, just can't see why they would sneak around and abduct people from the ozarks. Why not the most intelligent of our species?

Like I said. I wish it were true but I am pretty sure that it isn't.
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
Even in the Bible its quoted God says "I've created many different worlds".

As with most of the Bible and its content, that can mean 100 different things. Comes down to what each individual belives or feels.

Personally I'd like to think there are other worlds with things going on. Even if its just a swampy place with micro organisms living there.
 

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Posted by a50sn95 (Member # 527) on :
 
To me, the idea that we will travel these distances by accelerating spaceships to faster than the speed of light seems a bit far-fetched. Most sci-fi stories/shows/books have an alternate method to space travel. For instance,Star Trek had the "warp" drive, and while it was depicted as an engine that accelerated the space ship very fast, the name suggested that it "warped" space. The best version we are all likely familiar with is from Dune, where they folded space. While, some alien being used a drug to "magically" alter space-time, there is a respected cosmological thoery out there exploring this "type" of thing. It had to do with diminsions that our consious is not aware of, but are believed to exist. Of course, it is all theory, but so was the idea that the earth was round. Anyway, it's called the covariant theory, or covariant gravity. You can find reference to it on the internet, but mostly scientific papers that most of us (or at least me) don't understand. One of the smartest people I have ever known was involved with this theory as a "hobby", and he thought he didn't know much compared to the people he was working on it with. (at 22, he had degrees in nuclear engineering, and nuclear physics, and was in charge of refueling nuclear subs for Westinghouse.) Anyway, just for thought....
Dennis
 

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Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on :
 

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Originally posted by a50sn95:
To me, the idea that we will travel these distances by accelerating spaceships to faster than the speed of light seems a bit far-fetched. Most sci-fi stories/shows/books have an alternate method to space travel. For instance,Star Trek had the "warp" drive, and while it was depicted as an engine that accelerated the space ship very fast, the name suggested that it "warped" space. The best version we are all likely familiar with is from Dune, where they folded space. While, some alien being used a drug to "magically" alter space-time, there is a respected cosmological thoery out there exploring this "type" of thing. It had to do with diminsions that our consious is not aware of, but are believed to exist. Of course, it is all theory, but so was the idea that the earth was round. Anyway, it's called the covariant theory, or covariant gravity. You can find reference to it on the internet, but mostly scientific papers that most of us (or at least me) don't understand. One of the smartest people I have ever known was involved with this theory as a "hobby", and he thought he didn't know much compared to the people he was working on it with. (at 22, he had degrees in nuclear engineering, and nuclear physics, and was in charge of refueling nuclear subs for Westinghouse.) Anyway, just for thought....
Dennis

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Originally posted by Blowfish:
Ya know aliens get their freak on too.

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LMAO!!!
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
the bible doesn't say anythign about there NOT being life in other planets. infact, there are several parts where different religious use to PROVE that good created different creatures in different planets.
Why would they need to travel faster than the speed of light? if they are advanced enough maybe they have designed a way of creating blackholes and traveling through there thus saving time.
 

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Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on :
 
John were you at a BBQ place for lunch today. I swear I saw you there.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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You might be right, Dana, about the speed of light speed limit being overcome some day. Anything is possible. Even if it is it will still take a very long time to travel between stars. So why have they come all that distance and won't make contact? Is that what you would do if the situation were reversed? I know I would make contact. Mankind is not all that primative that we would be worthless to communicate with by aliens. If they traveled here by a ship of some kind they are still in the same realm as we are in terms of needing a physical machine to get here so we aren't that backward. It wouldn't be like a human trying to communicate with an ant. We wouldn't be that far apart in terms of evolution.

Nope, just can't see why they would sneak around and abduct people from the ozarks. Why not the most intelligent of our species?

Like I said. I wish it were true but I am pretty sure that it isn't.

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Originally posted by bunchmyfunky:
John were you at a BBQ place for lunch today. I swear I saw you there.

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Nope, wasn't me but I did pick up some ribs on the way home this afternoon. That guy was probably some alien impersonator
 

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
You might be right, Dana, about the speed of light speed limit being overcome some day. Anything is possible. Even if it is it will still take a very long time to travel between stars. So why have they come all that distance and won't make contact? Is that what you would do if the situation were reversed? I know I would make contact. Mankind is not all that primative that we would be worthless to communicate with by aliens. If they traveled here by a ship of some kind they are still in the same realm as we are in terms of needing a physical machine to get here so we aren't that backward. It wouldn't be like a human trying to communicate with an ant. We wouldn't be that far apart in terms of evolution.

Nope, just can't see why they would sneak around and abduct people from the ozarks. Why not the most intelligent of our species?

Like I said. I wish it were true but I am pretty sure that it isn't.

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i think if they are really intelligent they would contact the people that govern the masses and let them decide on how the people would react to their contact. Intelligent beings if they are friendly probably don't want to start a panic.

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Well, if I were an alien and I had studied this planet the governments would be the absolute last place I would go to. I was thinking intellegent people so that rules out any government official I am aware of. Maybe they looked at the government officials and then decided to go to a higher intellect, like the hill billies they abduct in the ozarks.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
You might be right, Dana, about the speed of light speed limit being overcome some day. Anything is possible. Even if it is it will still take a very long time to travel between stars. So why have they come all that distance and won't make contact? Is that what you would do if the situation were reversed? I know I would make contact. Mankind is not all that primative that we would be worthless to communicate with by aliens. If they traveled here by a ship of some kind they are still in the same realm as we are in terms of needing a physical machine to get here so we aren't that backward. It wouldn't be like a human trying to communicate with an ant. We wouldn't be that far apart in terms of evolution.

Nope, just can't see why they would sneak around and abduct people from the ozarks. Why not the most intelligent of our species?

Like I said. I wish it were true but I am pretty sure that it isn't.

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i think if they are really intelligent they would contact the people that govern the masses and let them decide on how the people would react to their contact. Intelligent beings if they are friendly probably don't want to start a panic.

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Well, if I were an alien and I had studied this planet the governments would be the absolute last place I would go to. I was thinking intellegent people so that rules out any government official I am aware of. Maybe they looked at the government officials and then decided to go to a higher intellect, like the hill billies they abduct in the ozarks.

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HAHAH

So John when are you moving up here? We should do a star gazing nights sometime i still haven't used my camera on my scope yet
Also at the airport theres some kind of astronomy group that meets.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
I think its kinda odd though that every country has a UFO file and that most of the stuff reported is from military personel

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
You might be right, Dana, about the speed of light speed limit being overcome some day. Anything is possible. Even if it is it will still take a very long time to travel between stars. So why have they come all that distance and won't make contact? Is that what you would do if the situation were reversed? I know I would make contact. Mankind is not all that primative that we would be worthless to communicate with by aliens. If they traveled here by a ship of some kind they are still in the same realm as we are in terms of needing a physical machine to get here so we aren't that backward. It wouldn't be like a human trying to communicate with an ant. We wouldn't be that far apart in terms of evolution.

Nope, just can't see why they would sneak around and abduct people from the ozarks. Why not the most intelligent of our species?

Like I said. I wish it were true but I am pretty sure that it isn't.

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i think if they are really intelligent they would contact the people that govern the masses and let them decide on how the people would react to their contact. Intelligent beings if they are friendly probably don't want to start a panic.

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Well, if I were an alien and I had studied this planet the governments would be the absolute last place I would go to. I was thinking intellegent people so that rules out any government official I am aware of. Maybe they looked at the government officials and then decided to go to a higher intellect, like the hill billies they abduct in the ozarks.

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HAHAH

So John when are you moving up here? We should do a star gazing nights sometime i still haven't used my camera on my scope yet
Also at the airport theres some kind of astronomy group that meets.

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
You might be right, Dana, about the speed of light speed limit being overcome some day. Anything is possible. Even if it is it will still take a very long time to travel between stars. So why have they come all that distance and won't make contact? Is that what you would do if the situation were reversed? I know I would make contact. Mankind is not all that primative that we would be worthless to communicate with by aliens. If they traveled here by a ship of some kind they are still in the same realm as we are in terms of needing a physical machine to get here so we aren't that backward. It wouldn't be like a human trying to communicate with an ant. We wouldn't be that far apart in terms of evolution.

Nope, just can't see why they would sneak around and abduct people from the ozarks. Why not the most intelligent of our species?

Like I said. I wish it were true but I am pretty sure that it isn't.

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i think if they are really intelligent they would contact the people that govern the masses and let them decide on how the people would react to their contact. Intelligent beings if they are friendly probably don't want to start a panic.

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Well, if I were an alien and I had studied this planet the governments would be the absolute last place I would go to. I was thinking intellegent people so that rules out any government official I am aware of. Maybe they looked at the government officials and then decided to go to a higher intellect, like the hill billies they abduct in the ozarks.

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HAHAH

So John when are you moving up here? We should do a star gazing nights sometime i still haven't used my camera on my scope yet
Also at the airport theres some kind of astronomy group that meets.

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Gotta get the Alameda house sold first and after that it should be a quick move.

One of the upgrades to the back yard in GV is to install a deck up on the side of the hill. I plan on installing/constructing an observatory on it with a new scope. Pretty good view of the sky from it.

Winter sky in GV will be spectacular from what people tell me.

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Yeah i can't wait to see how clear Saturn looks here compared to Danville.

Last night i took the scope out for about 4 hours. Looked at Andromeda Galaxy and waited for Mars to rise above the trees.
When it did i followed the directions on setting up my LPI imager and then my scope wouldn't align so i had to do everything manual to look at Mars.
I was kinda pisses about it not aligning i don't know why it kept failing
Anywa long story short my images of Mars SUCK and one of them shows how bad i need to colimate my telescope

I got tips now from Cloudynights.com on how to focus and adjust the image so tomorrow night i am going to try again and see if i can atleast get a blurry image of Mars instead of a white dot.
 

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Posted by VenGeance (Member # 1724) on :
 
If I ever encounter an intelligent alien, I would ask if it can make an engine capable of unspeakable horsepower yet gets 50+ gallons per mile. Would that be neat, or what?
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
what would be cooler is if it ran on any type of water, seawater, tap water, etc

 

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Posted by Blowfish (Member # 4043) on :
 
It has long been rumored that aliens have developed a "anti gravity" type of power. This gives them the ability to make giant sharp turns and reverse direction in a snap. Its perfectly quiet as gravity is. How their bodies can handle these manuvers is their secret. Think of how two magnets repell and attract eachother. The japanese have come close to this effect with electric trains that ride on anti magnetic tracks, with no part of the train touching the track. The aliens were here first and as man was their children, we are sure to learn this dynamic affect . Time will tell.
 

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Posted by NO MANRZ (Member # 566) on :
 

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Heres an article on some scientists who made light travel 300 times faster than the speed of light.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1081.htm

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ufoevidence.org is not a real source for scientific information but physics.org is. Try quoting ufoevidence.org on your science paper and see what your teacher says.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
Heres an article on some scientists who made light travel 300 times faster than the speed of light.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1081.htm

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ufoevidence.org is not a real source for scientific information but physics.org is. Try quoting ufoevidence.org on your science paper and see what your teacher says.

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